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In the Breitbart smear campaign against labor education, videos of labor education classes were edited to intentionally give a completely false picture of what was going on in the classes. For example, video of Judy Ancel quoting someone else talking about violence as a tactic is edited to make it sound like the words are strictly Ancel's, not the person she's quoting. In my previous posting here, I took audio of Lt. Governor Kinder spouting on right wing talk radio quoting someone else (who was quoting yet someone else) saying they believe that power comes out of the barrel of a gun as Mao and Marx taught, and edited it to make it sound like Kinder was saying that he himself believed that. Also on talk radio, Kinder defended this kind of selective editing as legitmate reason to attack Judy Ancel and Don Giljum. I emailed Lt. Governor Kinder's Chief of Staff Bill Kenney and asked for a statement. Kenney apparently didn't read the whole email and simply protested that his boss hadn't actually said what he said. My point exactly. Kinder didn't espouse a belief in Mao and Marx and government power at the point of a gun, just like Ancel and Giljum didn't espouse a belief in violence in their labor history teaching. Since Kenney seems to stand by this sort of ridiculous selective editing used against someone else, I have to take it that he is suggesting that his boss is to be taken at his own words when he said, and I quote, "I believe that power comes out of the barrel of a gun as Mao Tse Tung taught and as Karl Marx taught."
Below is Kenney's email response:
From: "Kenney, Bill"
To: Tom Klammer
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 2:38:13 PM
Subject: RE: Would like a statement on Lt. Governor Kinder's remarks on 97.1 radio show about Institute for Labor Studies
Dear Mr. Klammer;
Thank you for contacting the Office of Lieutenant Governor Peter Kinder. I, too find remarks you attribute to the Lt. Governor as both shocking and disturbing. However, the Lt. Governor is not the one who made those remarks.
If you go back and listen to the youtube recording on 4/28/11 on the Dana Losche Show you will hear Lt. Governor Peter Kinder repeat a statement made by Don Giljum, an employee of Amaren UE and a guest lecturer. It is Mr. Giljum who makes the disturbing Mao Tse Tung and Karl Marx statement at the same time discussing Industrial Sabotage. The Lt Governor expressed his concern at such outlandish statements.
Should you need any other assistance please do not hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
Bill Kenney
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From: Tom Klammer
To: "Kenney, Bill"
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 3:06:02 PM
Subject: Re: Would like a statement on Lt. Governor Kinder's remarks on 97.1 radio show about Institute for Labor Studies
Mr. Kenney,
you miss the point, intentionally, or out of stunning ignorance, altogether.
Using the exact same standard that Kinder uses against Ancel and Giljum to accuse them of advocating violence, one would have to conclude that Kinder is a Maoist and a Marxist.
The comments of Kinder are, indeed, shocking and disturbing, as is your non-response.
best,
Tom Klammer
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From: Tom Klammer [mailto:tellsomebodyradio@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:48 PM
To: Kenney, Bill
Subject: Would like a statement on Lt. Governor Kinder's remarks on 97.1 radio show about Institute for Labor Studies
Mr. Bill Kenney
Chief of Staff
Lt. Governor of Missouri
Dear Mr. Kenney,
I will be running with the following quote from Lt. Governor Kinder on my community radio show and on my blog.
On a you tube video associated with 97.1 News Talk Radio, I heard Lt. Gov. Kinder say "I believe that power comes out of the barrel of a gun as Mao Tse Tung taught and as Karl Marx taught. Power comes out of the barrel of a gun. Power doesn't come to the people who make decisions in a self-governing republic with rights derived from our creator."
I find these remarks to be quite disturbing coming from an elected official in the State of Missouri, and I wanted to give Lt. Gov. Kinder's office the opportunity to respond. Is Lt. Governor Kinder a Maoist? Is he a Marxist? It certainly sounds like it based from the quote, which is word for word with no edits between its start and finish, of words he spoke.
Ordinarily I also pay considerable attention to context, but, quoting the Lt. Governor again speaking on the Breitbart videos, "what if it is edited, for length? In some respect. 60 Minutes, for almost 45 years, has won Emmy's and Pulitzer Prizes for selective editing... so for them to make this their defense, and say that well, Andrew Breitbart is well known for selective editing, my goodness, Mike Wallace and Morley Safer and all those people at 60 Minutes have prospered the 45 years for doing precisely that...:
The Lt. Gov. is villifying educators in part based on their having attributed to them statements of others that they quoted, and he has suggested that they are terrorists.
Unlike the Lt. Governor and Andrew Breitbart, I will note the context in which his statements were made, and that he was trying to describe what somebody else said, but I will prominently feature the fact that he did indeed say that power comes from the barrel of a gun as taught by Mao and Marx, and hope to get a statement so I can make the whole presentation as fair and balanced as possible.
And tell the Lt. Governor for me that if and when I get an Emmy or a Pulitzer for my editing, I will invite him to the ceremony.
sincerely,
Tom Klammer
cc: my blog and email lists
To: Tom Klammer
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 2:38:13 PM
Subject: RE: Would like a statement on Lt. Governor Kinder's remarks on 97.1 radio show about Institute for Labor Studies
Dear Mr. Klammer;
Thank you for contacting the Office of Lieutenant Governor Peter Kinder. I, too find remarks you attribute to the Lt. Governor as both shocking and disturbing. However, the Lt. Governor is not the one who made those remarks.
If you go back and listen to the youtube recording on 4/28/11 on the Dana Losche Show you will hear Lt. Governor Peter Kinder repeat a statement made by Don Giljum, an employee of Amaren UE and a guest lecturer. It is Mr. Giljum who makes the disturbing Mao Tse Tung and Karl Marx statement at the same time discussing Industrial Sabotage. The Lt Governor expressed his concern at such outlandish statements.
Should you need any other assistance please do not hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
Bill Kenney
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From: Tom Klammer
To: "Kenney, Bill"
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 3:06:02 PM
Subject: Re: Would like a statement on Lt. Governor Kinder's remarks on 97.1 radio show about Institute for Labor Studies
Mr. Kenney,
you miss the point, intentionally, or out of stunning ignorance, altogether.
Using the exact same standard that Kinder uses against Ancel and Giljum to accuse them of advocating violence, one would have to conclude that Kinder is a Maoist and a Marxist.
The comments of Kinder are, indeed, shocking and disturbing, as is your non-response.
best,
Tom Klammer
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From: Tom Klammer [mailto:tellsomebodyradio@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:48 PM
To: Kenney, Bill
Subject: Would like a statement on Lt. Governor Kinder's remarks on 97.1 radio show about Institute for Labor Studies
Mr. Bill Kenney
Chief of Staff
Lt. Governor of Missouri
Dear Mr. Kenney,
I will be running with the following quote from Lt. Governor Kinder on my community radio show and on my blog.
On a you tube video associated with 97.1 News Talk Radio, I heard Lt. Gov. Kinder say "I believe that power comes out of the barrel of a gun as Mao Tse Tung taught and as Karl Marx taught. Power comes out of the barrel of a gun. Power doesn't come to the people who make decisions in a self-governing republic with rights derived from our creator."
I find these remarks to be quite disturbing coming from an elected official in the State of Missouri, and I wanted to give Lt. Gov. Kinder's office the opportunity to respond. Is Lt. Governor Kinder a Maoist? Is he a Marxist? It certainly sounds like it based from the quote, which is word for word with no edits between its start and finish, of words he spoke.
Ordinarily I also pay considerable attention to context, but, quoting the Lt. Governor again speaking on the Breitbart videos, "what if it is edited, for length? In some respect. 60 Minutes, for almost 45 years, has won Emmy's and Pulitzer Prizes for selective editing... so for them to make this their defense, and say that well, Andrew Breitbart is well known for selective editing, my goodness, Mike Wallace and Morley Safer and all those people at 60 Minutes have prospered the 45 years for doing precisely that...:
The Lt. Gov. is villifying educators in part based on their having attributed to them statements of others that they quoted, and he has suggested that they are terrorists.
Unlike the Lt. Governor and Andrew Breitbart, I will note the context in which his statements were made, and that he was trying to describe what somebody else said, but I will prominently feature the fact that he did indeed say that power comes from the barrel of a gun as taught by Mao and Marx, and hope to get a statement so I can make the whole presentation as fair and balanced as possible.
And tell the Lt. Governor for me that if and when I get an Emmy or a Pulitzer for my editing, I will invite him to the ceremony.
sincerely,
Tom Klammer
cc: my blog and email lists
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Links to more info:
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/04/29/2837482/video-posted-online-prompts-threats.html
http://voices.kansascity.com/entries/peter-kinder-flamethrower/
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2011/apr/29/university-calls-videos-misleading-one-instructor-/
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/breitbarted-again-biggovernment-uses-edited
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2011/04/29/umkc-professor-and-umsl-instructor-portrayed-supportive-violent-unions-tactics/
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201104290017
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/kansas-city-university-says-online-video-distorts-labor-lectures-targeted-by-conservative-blog/2011/04/29/AF5KnZGF_story.html
http://faireconomy.org/enews/andrew_breitbart_is_still_a_liar#comment-466
http://stlactivisthub.blogspot.com/2011/04/big-government-lies-about-edits.html
http://www.kclabor.org/labor_education_in_missouri_unde.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Uv0JLh9dg&feature=youtu.be
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201104290021
http://biggovernment.com/laborunionreport/2011/04/29/the-afl-cio-communism-right-to-work-in-missouri/
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